Outtakes
I had an amazing time with this wonderful, diverse group of trailblazers, so I’m delighted to share some of the outtakes from the interviews.
I had an amazing time with this wonderful, diverse group of trailblazers, so I’m delighted to share some of the outtakes from the interviews.
Gary Francione retells an amusing, thoughtful conversation about veganism that took place while waiting for a train.
Gary Francione is Board of Governors Professor of Law and Nicholas deB. Katzenbach Scholar of Law and Philosophy at Rutgers University School of Law-Newark. Find out more about his work at The Abolitionist Approach or by checking out his most recent book, Eat Like You Care.
Steve Wise, Gary Francione and Peter Singer explain the connections between animals, slavery and the law.
“Just as in the 19th century, there was a real schism between abolitionists of slavery and people who wanted to make slavery more humane…The abolitionists said, Look, I’m not interested in making an unjust institution more humane. I’m interested in abolishing the institution.” Gary Francione
“There were lots of laws that protected slaves. They didn’t provide any…meaningful protection for slaves because in every situation in which there was a conflict, you’ve got to figure out whose interests matter more: the interest of the property owner or the interest of the property?” Gary Francione
Peter Singer, Lee Hall, Richard Epstein, Steve Wise, Jarrod Bailey, Sarah Baeckler, Katherine Meyer, Pat Dingle and Gary Francione recommend one thing to improve the lives of animals.
“Whatever else you’re doing, if you’re not a vegan, I don’t understand what you’re doing. I don’t understand why you care. If you’re eating them, if you’re wearing them, what do you care? Why do you care?”
Jarrod Bailey, Richard Epstein, David Priestman, Laurie Pycroft, Roger Fouts, Steve Wise, Katherine Meyer, Theo Capaldo, Gary Francione, Lee Hall, Peter Singer, Sarah Baeckler, and Pedro Pozas Terrados respond to where they would draw the line and what criteria they would use when granting rights to animals.
“For me the personhood of nonhumans means that we recognize one right. Only one right. The right not to be property. I don’t see this as a legal right…It’s basically a pre-legal moral right.“